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Test/Deca/Dbol - Second cycle with Bloods (First Post) - Cycle logs - Gymnation
Or sign in with one of these services. First time caller up in here, looking for some opinions. Don't care how brutal just have at me. This post will provide a little background on myself and go into detail about my second cycle - I am currently at the end of PCT and will provide further information bloods within a week or two. Sussed the gear off a mate at the gym. I overpaid like a newbie, however I learnt from my mistakes. I am also a student and when I came off I was an idiot and drunk like a fish Eventually I returned to kg through negligence of my body.
Now, down to the business, my second cycle. My acne from my first cycle went away after I recovered and hoped on some Doxy. Anyway, here it goes:. I am not sure how these forums functions work so far, so hopefully all the bloods I upload have the correct titles I put on them or something so you can follows the timeline. Was up around 4kg - hardly bloated at all, no sides.
My weight peaked at Prolactin and estro almost doubled at this point. Now for the third set of bloods August , this is where I have some doubts as to the Deca I was sold.
This prompted me to think about the gear I was actually sold. I asked him for Test-E in the first place and he said he was out ii. He was charging more for Test-E than P expected given raw prices. I knew the Dbol was legit but discontinued use of it ages before the third bloods. This leads me to point fingers at the Deca, which very much could have been Test-E instead and would explain my test levels still being through the roof at week Not sure how legit that is lol - pls confirm?
Anyway, ended the cycle at 89kg. Maintained that for a week if that, dropped water weight like crazy now I am weighing between Experienced a slight blow out in Acne early on in PCT, its way better now though on Doxy, no tanning but will do when summer comes around, I use non-fragence bodywash and change sheets regularly.
That's it, thanks for reading guys, please give feedback. I would like to regularly start contributing to this forum. Please do not hesitate to scrutinise and ask questions. Test levels could still be up if last shots of Prop were 2 weeks before testing. Go find a serum test calculator and log your Prop cycle What were your lifts at end of cycle?
Did you get any other sides? From what you've said the deca sounds legit. Doesn't seem like a well thought out cycle for someone going to the effort to get bloods etc. You would have got similar results off half those doses. There's lots of good gear in chch atm shouldn't be hard to find another source. No You only stopped taking Test Prop 2 weeks before this test? Your levels still would be off the chart as there would have be a build up from your cycle as nate25 said.
Makes perfect sense tbh. This is the most likely reason, can't believe I overlooked it. I'll take this into consideration next time I try. Why did you quadruple your dose on 2nd cycle? I guess there is no other excuse other than I wanted to try running two compounds and chose Deca to supplement the Test. Why did you run deca higher than test? Test should be equal or higher - A lot of people have contradicting advice on this subject, I am still a youngbuck.
Can you please explain? Why would he sell you test e instead of deca if he was out of test e? His prices for Deca were priced higher than Test-e, therefore makes business sense to rip me off for a little more dosh. I kinda doubt this was the case though considering nate's post above. I haven't tested 1RM for bench yet, but I'm pushing 95kg 5x5. Deadlift 1RM went from kg to kg. Squat 1RM from kg to kg. None that I know of. I know I'm kinda prone to gyno due to getting sensitive nips during puberty, and have had puffy nips since I was 16 years old, kinda sucks actually.
It's hard for a youngbuck who doesn't know many serious lifters. I occasionally see people at my gym who I suspect who use, but I feel like if I asked I'd be treading on thin water.
I never met him face-to-face, it just turned up at my doorstep after I paid. SCL labs would not do that test for me. Your Test P' could have been enanthate with too high BA.. Propionate would be showing at appreciable levels for a couple of days after last pin, no more Nandrolone would be present up to about week It was all through SCL, however I get my bloods done for free through my doc.
I figure there is no point taking risks without knowing what is going on, for the sake of a higher insurance premium in the future. The health centre I use also is free on all visits because I am a student. I realise this, Nandrolone may have been around for a while yes day half life, I also tapered down in the last week.
It could be either Test-P build up or Deca. I realise this, Nandrolone may have been around for a while yes day half life , I also tapered down in the last week. Everyone is yarning contradictory information in this thread lol. What you are saying is what I first thought.
I have a paper showing propionate as having 0. Test should be atleast equal so you can bang girls and not just flog them with it due to deca dick lol. Point taken if using hcg or clomid, but with a pure estrogen blocker or AI with no effect on testes it seems silly, especially given the majority of E produced will be from the short acting T used. Estrogen ratio will be well fucked by the time nandrolone has cleared The half life of Propionate can be as short as 0. Its prudent to cease nandrolone 2 weeks prior to test, unfortunately nandrolone metabolites can be present in blood up to 6 months after cessation, which can cause issue when attempting to re-start HPTA Plus any estrogenic response from nandrolone is via estren In the pituitary it acts as an estrogen, sensitizing pituitary cells to the actions of gonadotropin-releasing hormone GnRH.
Definitely saw the most gains when I started Dbol, and up until that point I had not seen any estrogenic sides - was noticing a bit of bloat before I started Dbol but it was minimal. Dbol gave me minimal face acne like pimples but a little more backne. You need to be a member in order to leave a comment.
Sign up for a new account in our community. Already have an account? NZ's bodybuilding, strength and fitness community Existing user? Or sign in with one of these services Sign in with Facebook. Posted September 14, Firstly, some background info: Anyway, here it goes: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites. Posted September 15, Test should be equal or higher Why would he sell you test e instead of deca if he was out of test e? What lab did you use in christchurch?
Posted September 16, I will get more bloods done next week on Monday, will post results when I get them. Nandrolone half life is closer to days Posted September 17, Did you wait weeks for the deca to clear before you started PCT?
Using nolva only is hardly a PCT Posted September 20, Posted September 21,